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A Crash Course in Parli for the LD Oriented...
« on: Jun 21st, 2005, 11:49am » |
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I have a couple of questions about the format.
1.) I'm accustomed to doing ld so I'm not familiar with how the two constructive structure works. Can a debater present literally present two cases? Do debaters respond to arguments during the constructive phase? What then is the distinction between a constructive and a rebuttal?
2.) How does opposition block work? It seems the negative is allowed to give two speeches in a row. What tasks would a debater do during the constructive and what tasks would he/she do during the rebuttal?
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Hi, uh, YourMom,
While nothing of this is set in stone and debaters should feel free to argue what is and isn't permissible within the context of the debate round, here are a few suggestions:
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No, not usually. Sometimes debaters present new arguments in the second constructive, but it's not really strategically sound. Consider that if you present a new argument in the MGC, the OPP has the entire block to offer a multitude of responses that the GOV won't really have a chance to counter in its final (short) speech. If you offer a new argument in the MOC, then you don't have any more speeches to back your point. This means that the GOV will get the final word on it in the PMR and you'll almost inevitably lose the point anyway. So, yeah, feel free to experiment as you see fit, but in my experience, it's best to just stick with the line-by-line from the MGC onward.
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Yes.
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New arguments are permitted in the constructive speeches. New examples of old arguments are permitted in the rebuttals, but new arguments are not permitted.
Have you ever watched a policy round? It wouldn't be unlike that.
In LD terms: You can think of the PMC as roughly equivalent to the AC (just present the case). The LOC is roughly equivalent to the NC (present case, refute opponent's case). The MGC is roughly equivalent to the 1AR (lots of attention to line-by-line analysis). The MOC/LOR is roughly equivalent to the NR (spend most of your time on the line-by-line [MOC], but some of your time also on crystallization [LOR]). And, of course, the PMR would, then, be the 2AR, though I'd say you want to spend slightly more time on the line-by-line than the average LD debater would, while crystallizing while you won the round.
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Well, in this online format, I've modified it such that the MOC/LOR is a single speech not to exceed 2500 words. But, as I mentioned above, the MOC would spend more time emphasizing the line-by-line and the LOR would spend more time weighing and crystallizing.
Hope that helps. This is not, of course, a definitive answer. And there are as many different styles to parli as there are debaters who practice them. So, I do encourage anybody else to offer responses to your questions as they see fit. But I think you'll do fine. 
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Re: A Crash Course in Parli for the LD Oriented...
« Reply #2 on: Jun 22nd, 2005, 11:36am » |
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Thanks a lot for the help
I know this is going to be a fun tournament.
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 27th, 2005, 2:17pm » |
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Can we get an explanation of what the abbreviations are?
I'm still trying to decide whether or not to do Parli in college (I graduate in June 06), and I'm trying to learn as much as I can.
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Re: A Crash Course in Parli for the LD Oriented...
« Reply #4 on: Aug 27th, 2005, 2:30pm » |
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Oh, my apologies.
Parliamentary debate is modeled on the British parliamentary system of governance.
As such, rather than there being an affirmative team and a negative team, there's a government team and an opposition team. (Though, people certainly still use "aff" and "neg" as alternatives to "gov" and "opp")
Each team has two speakers. The first speaker of the government team is the prime minister (PM), the second speaker is the member of government (MG). The first speaker of the opposition team is the leader of the opposition (LO) and the second speaker is the member of opposition (MO).
There are six speeches in the debate round. The first four speeches are constructives (abbreviated with the letter "C" below) and the last two are rebuttals (abbreviated with the letter "R" below).
The college timing format is:
PMC - 7 minutes
LOC - 8 minutes
MGC - 8 minutes
MOC - 8 minutes
LOR - 4 minutes
PMR - 5 minutes
Two things to note:
First, the opposition gets two speeches in a row at the end of the debate round. Second, for each team, one person speaks twice (the PM and the LO) and the other person speaks only once (the MG and the MO).
Hope that helps! Any other questions, don't hesitate to ask!
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